Arthur Plantagenet was born between 1461 and 1475 in Calais, which was then an English possession in France. Rowland Ellis was my Eighth GreatGrandfather. Colchester, Essex. The confusion of the Jamaican — slave, slave holder, or grunt — is interesting. In England a lot of my family where nobles from Yorkshire such as Sir Robert Constable of Yorkshire and one was executed in the Tower for being the main leader in the Pilgramge of Grace. Then, started tracing names. Bill, your latest comment where you mention the knight Templars got me thinking, On my family tree I have William Sinclair First lord of Roslin 1028-1078. Brad Pitt the actor is also Plantagenet. It is not known how his teenage years were spent after Edward's… Until they DNA test the bones of the ancients, nothing is sure, especially as they were all taking maids and servants to bed. Edward, Prince of Wales, d 1471 There’s actually two Plantagenet lines. It is the surname of the Earls of Dunleath however. Arthur Bassett was thus a grandson of Arthur Plantagenet, 1st Viscount Lisle on his mother's side, and on his father's side a grandson of Honor Plantagenet, Viscountess Lisle, née Honor Grenville, the second wife of Sir John Bassett (d.1529) who married secondly as his second wife the aforementioned Arthur Plantagenet. Many are still living in Caithness and some even in Orkney, I checked on their family trees and lo and behold they go back directly to William Sinclair and even Normandy (I have lots of ancestors from Normandy too), There are also many from Norway and the Faroe Islands which geographically does all fit in. Peter Gowling (aka John Francis Puttock - illegitimate of course. I actually found this on my tree and I am having a hard time believing it. So it’s all over the place? The family line moves to America into Virginia and North Carolina, etc. My husband does genealogy and we found he is of Plantagenet line and Tudor ,and he went back to at least Henry the 2nd-3rd line. Speaking of which, “the Lion of Judah” refers to Christ, and that is how it would have been understood. Check out this Warren guy for a family resemblance: http://www.nccg.org/warren3.html I can’t vouch for anything he says, but he might be a clue on the trail of your ancestors. The DNA tests were to confirm my discoveries, and seems I’m a rare bird as well. Would like to know more about these traits. http://www.geni.com/people/Edward-IV-of-England/5004605390570058208 He is my 2nd cousin 17xremoved and also my 2nd cousin 4xremoved’s husband’s 10th great grandfather. Communism is dead and for the spiritually dead. As havei such mixed genes I look more Spanish or Italian and although I have green eyes and black hair my skin is very white. Arc dig 2016 has discovered Knowles/hazards family buried in Road Island. And if they get a match to one, then they can try and trace back through their male line and see where it goes. Perhaps you are like King George III of Great Britain. No family stories, no whispers, no bragging about lineage used; only original source material was good enough. Do you mean, Richard Plantagenet, 1st Earl of Cornwall & King of the Romans b. Interesting everyone should get a blood test and share the Genes. If he preached, he was drawing attention. Nice to meet you cousin, yes apparently my family who are legitimate, kept marrying into royal families up until the late 1800s. (the Plantagenets descended from). I image you smell like a goat. This particular Joseph means many things to other groups of people and has proven difficult to confirm paternally. Heh. In my DNA it states that I have Flemish, Irish,Frankish, German, Russian English, Spanish, Portugues, Italian (sicily and Tuscony) South Dutch, Urkranian, Hungarian,Russian, Scandanavia, Celtic, Scottish- well to cut a long story short just about every nationality across Europe, I was a bit suspicious so decided to upload my raw data to 4 other dna sites and they all came back with the same results- a true citizen of Europe! LINE EXTINCT You know who else had many children? Dad has to be a king for a son to become one. 11 page report.my grandmother is Cepesko.grandfather is know as Gaylord but only after they left oak island 1609 built Gaylord vill. On my mother´s side it goes back to the royal houses of Germany and Austria. I then visited the National Archives in Kew London and actually found 14 documents relating to him. Sometimes I am embarrassed to admit I didn’t know something. Earl of Cambridge was cut completely from his father’s will, oddly, and his mother did not name him as her heir either. Mary P Thompson. You’ve got a free man from a sugar plantation (just a guess that’s where he was). The Plantagenet kings, Edward I, Ii, and III, are my 21st, 20th, and 19th great grandfathers. It’s not as common as you think. I have , however no real proof that this marriage took place as cannot find a marriage certificate from around 1545 and am only going by wellknown platforms such as geni, wikitree, find my past, my heritage etc , I don´t know if these sites are 100% accurate but they do give you biirth marriage and death certificates. For other titled Cornwall branches, I was also able to get down to a Francis Cornwall 16th Baron Burford, b. Ravlyn is not mentioned either in his father’s will of June 1347 or in a letter John sent to Edward III in April 1346 naming his other two secular sons, perhaps because he was dead by then. Both my mothers family Neville and that of my fathers noble family go back to Plantagenet blood lines. Who were the last legitimate male-line Plantagenets? When a camera crew approached him to break the news to him, he laughed them off, stating, “I’m a Republican!” A true Aussie spirit! The book “The King’s Son” 2nd and 3rd editions, the author talks about my Plantagenet connection, but won’t mention me because I didn’t sign a contract that I didn’t like some of the terms. Hello, cousins! Yet it was Poseidon who built Atlantis, who’s oldest son Atlas ran. I’m from Indiana. His sons died before he did. Henry Plantagenet is in the 19th generation of the family tree for Charles Gordon (Ahnentafel #312798). It is not a party pal; it is the study of one’s history. ( Log Out / When they came to America they were given lands, but no titles because only the firstborn inherited all and titles. They were not the Queen Mum’s sisters, but her brother John’s? You know, you could simply surf the Net yourself. Extremely educating and enlightening channel. However, seeing as you seem to doubt the authenticity of the sources I refer to perhaps you would like further reading yourself… I am not saying I know everything it is just that when I discover something that I thought I would have known, and didn’t, it does surprise me a bit. So who was MacBeth’s heir? If you have loads of money, you can speak with the property owners. He was the son of Fulk V "the Younger" of Anjou , Count of Anjou, and King of Jerusalem. That is correct. post pictures here; as it would cause quite a commotion. This happens a lot. It will only mean something to you personally and not officially because there are literally thousands of people descended from Royal lines. LINE EXTINCT (haplo group G-P287) Looks like Henry II was the only true royal Plantangenet. There isn’t a princess agnes hollingsworth or prince Robert hollingsworth. Do you have the dates of when they lived? TA, TA, Your dumbness, are you the Duke of Earl? He’s Neptune in Roman. I keep such records in a special box, but I need to get a tin box, or, better still, one of those fire-safe boxes, so I can pass the records on to the next generation, when the time comes. Many of this country’s (Revolutionary) founding fathers were wealthy descendants of Royal and noble UK lineages. Aborigines maintain a 40,000 years oral tradition, without the bible. Lewis. Not so how about the Line of Stewart’s ( Stuart’s) from the Earl’s of Bute and other Scottish Stewart’s. Richard also had no kids either. Keep an eye on the blog! Tudor didn’t have all that many Welsh troops. Also the bigger our population gets the closer in time this common ancestor we all share becomes. I do not know what your gripe is with the Queen. I have found on Ancestry those who claim Margaret Plantagenet had an illegitimate son with Richard Packard, Ist Earl of Stonham. Maybe yes or maybe they are just coincidences. Found inside – Page 267Arthur , " published in your Magazine They also state that , when in Bri . for ... PLANTAGENET . of Britany , which has , from the most ON TIMBER HOUSES . I think it’s great that so many people can appreciate both the paternal and maternal bloodlines of their specific family tree. I,m waiting on the results of my father´s test with My heritage and then I can upload for free on all the other above mentioned sites. Edmund’s eldest son, Henry Beaufort, became the 3rd Duke of Somerset in 1455 and died in 1464 without a legitimate heir. Yes, a thousand years ago–far more, in fact–Scandinavians were everywhere, even rowing down to Arabia, and taking rivers (and when not possible, carrying their ships over land) into Russia. Rowland Ellis mentioned in book of Plantagenet s Happy searching. Europe West 26% (Angles, Saxons & Jutes? brother Edward de Warenne on campaign abroad in April 1346. Found inside – Page 209Arthur Plantagenet leaving no Heirs Male by Elizabeth , his Dignity of Viscount ended with him and the Barony granted by the Patent of the 21st of Henry the ... George, Duke of Clarence, d 1478 Incredible….below is my decendancy chart, let me know if there are errors. They range from 21 to 34 generations. I looked at her family tree and we seem to share a lot of coincidences from the 1200s and onwards especially with the Nevilles, Constables and Willoughbys which of course all go back or are related to the Platagenents one way or another. Was his tribe at war with another tribe, who snatched him up? Or let sleeping dogs (bitches, to be specific) lie. The British Royals have always been able to inherit through the female line. inheriting a castle is more of a hindernace than a gain. Or is the rumor that she was an Indian correct? When Arthur Plantagenet was born on 29 March 1187, in Nantes, Loire-Atlantique, Pays de la Loire, France, his father, Geoffrey of England, Duke of Brittany, was 28 and his mother, Constance de Bretagne, was 21. British Parliament don’t like the french either, even though I’m a Plantagenet. ). Apparently that makes little or no sense. Is that Sir Mick Jagger!” (They’ll all crane their necks for a look at Mick Jagger. Brad’s been at this longer than I have. The more we learn of Viking ship building, and how they popped up all over the place, the more we understand where certain pockets of lighter hair originated. I’m also a grandson of the McCoys, and Stewarts. I found a YDNA study conducted on King Tut’s family, by Zahi Hawas, and other scientists in 2008, pub in 2010. This means that, unless you have copies of original sources for the births, deaths, and marriages of your ancestors, consider your ancestry, according to those websites, fictional, because it is. Many people seem to forget that British royalty would not carry English DNA as the majority of them were not English and many couldnt even speak the language and spoke in French or German.All the royal European houses are one big happy family as they married between cousins for centuries and that is why the Romanofs are cousins of the Windsors who are cousins of the Bourbons etc etc. Some will lead to the documentation required to be fairly certain our family trees are correct, but we won’t know until we get the documentation. DNA is not a deciding factor in violent crime court cases or determining parentages. The Plantagenet Kings Edward I, II and III are my 19th, 20th and 21st GGfathers on my maternal, while Elizabeth who married Henry VII is on my paternal side. On MyHeritage, I might show up there as your cousin. Seems I’m a descendant of Hamelin D’Anjou DeWarenne. Sorry for any confusion. MY 8TH GREAT GRANDPA WENT KING SCHOOL !! Certain caucasian men originated 100,000 years ago, and an African descendant whose y chromosome is 340,000 years old. Wasn’t till 400 A.D. at the council of Nicea Constantine presiding is where our modern New Testament comes from. How could you have Henry’s blood type? Henry VIII had an illegitimate son named Fitzroy (literal translation is “of royal line”) but despite his desire for a male heir, did not formally acknowledge him. What brought AWF to England? I have also found a DNA match with ancestors in Hanault with the surname Roet which makes me think of John of Gaunts wife. No, CEM is highly intelligent; you have lack of knowledge. Im a Plantagenet 8x over via my maternal grandmother who’s family emigrated to New York.. the true lines like mine still exist, although now in the US, and the Royal descendants have remained quite wealthy and educated to this day as we were in the UK. There is nothing illegitimate about any child. NONE of my research comes from any such encyclopedia, including Britannica for that matter. Katherine Plantagenet. I was tested to Richard’s paternal side, as his father is unknown, or in question. But a DNA test. Briefly stated, “descended”. On the Indian side I have the Gujarati from the North West (Gandhi s territory) Kalash an Indo-Ayran branch from Pakistan),.Indus Valley Barusho who live near Kashmir and are known for their longevity and a writer called it the shangri la on earth. My father's mother is a Stewart (Stuart), my father's great grandmother is a McCoy (McCay). The women had to be as tough as the men and few met that description ... Large families were a plus for royalty and nobility in the Medieval era. Those names might fly in the US today, but in the 20th century England? Hope it is right. Found inside – Page 205I had hitherto been Arthur Plantagenet the unlucky - I was now Arthur ... who fancied no doubt they left their descendants something to be proud of ... The Plantagenet bloodline goes all the way to Adam and Eve, and why this paternal chromosome doesn’t come out of Africa, but the North Fertile Crescent. I did the DNA test thing, and without the interruption of debunkers, learned a lot of history, and yet another way to see the literatures of the ancients. That said, Jacquetta was as closely connected to the Plantagenets already as she was to Lusignan, being a descendant of Plantagenet king Henry III as shown below. I don’t really believe that we have royalty though as the internet is not always accurate. her father → Sir Richard Champernon, Knight and Sheriff of Devonshire There are many other royals in my family tree. I have finally discovered something about my Jamaican born great great grandfather who was born in Kingston in 1837. People enter errors on those sites A LOT. Scroll down to the chart, to see how much genetic material an individual gets from each generation before theirs: http://dgmweb.net/Ancillary/OnE/NumberAncestors.html, It’s like Tracey says, “Looks like that, at the end of the day, we are really one big happy family.”, Hi, I have found a written account that Sir William Leslie Dick (my 8x gr grandfather), father-in-law of Sir Andrew Lauder of Fountainhall, 5th Baronet (my 7x gr grandfather), was a direct line descendant of the Plantagenet royal house. We just don’t care so much about the royal side..obviously. Or Jones. Is the current Somerset/Beaufort descendants actual descendants of the Plantegenets? Also, this shows not a bit of humor and your lack of intelligence. Pictures don’t count either (my uncle looks just like William DeWarenne, 3rd Ear of Surrey) and told “DNA doesn’t work that way.” But I thought that was the whole point of DNA. James-me too! John Plantagenet Waite was my 13th G. Grandfather; Edward 1 was my 19th G. Grandfather; King Edward II was my 5th cousin 19x rem. I live in New Orleans in America Hello cousins! your father → Jessie Adeline McDermott Did you know that George Washington was also a Plantagenet? Oh, and those Indus Valley Burusho people intrigued me. I also did the DNA testing! Who married Humphrey de bouhn then had Lady Eleanor De bohun? My cousin, G. Marion Norwood Callam of Bushey Heath, Hertfordshire gives my genealogy as follows: John of Gaunt and Katherine Swynford, Joan Beaufort and Ralph Neville, K.G., Lady Alice Neville and Henry 5th Lord FitzHugh, Elizabeth FitzHugh and Nicholas Lord Vaux, Catherine Anna Vaux and Sir George Throckmorton, Sir Robert Throckmorton and Muriel Berkeley, Chatherine Throckmorton and Henry Norwood, Elizabeth Lygon and Earl Beauchamp of Madresfield. I recognizing him and his son he merely admitted paternity in that he was his father. It’s fruitless. Fascinating stuff, the lives of regular people. Bildo huh, like I haven’t heard that before. 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